Premiere: Dillon & Diamond D – ‘Comin’ Out Swingin’ feat. Elzhi (video) + Interview

Dillon recently released his Diamond D produced Uncut Gems album, and today we’re bringing you the premiere of the video for “Comin’ Out Swingin”, which also features Elzhi. Watch below, then keep scrolling to read our interview with Dillon, and D.I.T.C. legend Diamond D. 

Dillon; Uncut Gems is your second project with Diamond D. How did
you and D first meet, and build a relationship?

In around 2007, Diamond used to come around to the crib I lived at with
a group called Collective Efforts and work in their studio. I had my own
little room goin’ on upstairs and after a while he would come check out
what I had going on and we just really clicked over our love for records,
J Dilla and gourmet dining! I started doing engineering work for him for
The Diam Piece 1 and 2, Sadat X’s Pieces of a Man LP and some more
work. Eventually, we’d churn out a bunch of our own tracks, which
would become our first record, Black Tie Affair.

Diamond D seems pretty selective with who he collaborates
with at this point in his long career, and he’s rarely ever produced
entire albums other than his own solo records. Was it hard
convincing him to make full albums with you?

Yo. I’m truly humbled and honored that I’ve been able to create with
Diamond D. It feels crazy to say that out loud! I wouldn’t say it was
difficult – it was actually a real natural process. We just had fun with it!
Diamond is a B-Boy to the core and is all about that action. I feel like
Diam has always recognized my drive and independent spirit and he
knows my word is my bond. The plans we make, we execute. This
follow-up record feels right on time for us and is actually the quickest
project I’ve ever turned around from the time we formulated the concept and picked beats in February 2022 to shipping the vinyl in June 2023!

Listening to the album, there’s something of a west coast vibe
with features from Slimkid3, Ras Kass and Planet Asia, even
though you are based in Atlanta. Was that intentional?

Yo it’s wild you mention that because Diamond has the reputation of being one of the main East Coast producers to bridge the gap with the West
Coast (and the South). He was way ahead of his time with that, so it
makes sense that this record is representative of that! On “Pardon Our
Dust,” it was my idea to holler at Planet Asia cause I’ve been a major
fan since the Planet Asia EP and we had met a few times before, etc. It
was Diam’s idea to holler at Ras Kass and go all the way West with that
track – plus with their history together, it made sense. So that was
somewhat intentional. We reached out to Slimkid3 more so because of
his vocal harmonies which I was hoping he would bless us with and he
did not disappoint!

There’s also guest bars from Elzhi. How did that come about?

Respect to the Detroit icon. Truly honored to have this track with a
lyrical titan and one of my all-time favorite emcees. I’ve been a fan since
I first heard ‘em on Welcome 2 Detroit. I had the opportunity to help mix
the song he did with Diamond, “I Cant Lose” on The Diam Piece 2. One
day I was kicking it over at Diam’s lab and he was going through beats
and that beat came on and I was like, “Elzhi would body that beat.”
Diam sent it to ‘em and it ended up becoming that song, so Diam let me
mix the track. Crazy. So when we were coming up with ideas for who to
get on “Comin’ Out Swingin,” Diam suggested we reach out to Elzhi
because he knew how much of a fan I was of his work. I knew Elzhi
would nail the concept down because of how sharp and focused his pen
game is…obviously he brought that pressure! Shouts to Elzhi for
coming through to Atlanta and destroying his set at the Uncut Gems
release party and knocking the video out the day before. Probably the
best 48 hours of my rap life!

I want to talk about Paten Locke. His death in 2019 was a huge
loss for indy rap. You worked together a lot, and Full Plate have
been keeping his legacy alive with releases since. How did losing
him impact you?

Thank you so much for bringing up Paten. My mentor, my best friend
and my partner in FULL PLATE. We started it together in 2013 but we
were just getting started before he was taken from us. It was just so…
sudden. It was crushing. Honestly and for a good minute I didn’t know if
I was even gonna keep on with FULL PLATE, or if I could even do it
without him. I didn’t want to let him down and fail. But…yeah, I’m
keeping it moving with our squad: Batsauce, Lady Daisey, Willie Evans
Jr., Kenski on design, and recent additions to the roster; longtime
Atlanta fam, The Difference Machine and Yamin Semali.

Paten’s ethos and ”don’t monkey with the funky” mentality are still
absolutely the guiding force of FULL PLATE. His daughter, Asha is my
partner in the biz and of course takes after her father and is an actual
rock star in her own right. (Check out her band, GILT). So yeah when
we say, FULL PLATE FAM, it’s actually family! Every project is
dedicated to P and we still have more of Paten’s work to be released in
the near future…everything is going according to plan.

Going back to Uncut Gems, you’ve got vinyl, tapes and
merchandise. With streaming percentages so low, and tour
revenue hard to make happen, is it a no-brainer nowadays that any
release you put out will need physicals and merch?

Anyone who knows the Dillon brand knows that I will slap my logo on
any damn thing and drop it on a merch table. I’m a collector and rap
hoarder myself so I just love making ish and having doubles just for me.
Doing merchandise is not for everybody though. It can be expensive
and tricky to get rid of if you’re not in sell mode. So strategize and try
and look in some pre-sales before you order your merch so you know
how much inventory to get. And make sure the design is DOPE!

What can we expect to hear next from you after Uncut Gems?

Quiet as kept we got a couple remixes for Uncut Gems in the works
right now that will turn some heads. Next full length with Batsauce on
the beats is wrapped up and it’s definitely our best work. We also got
some legendary guest appearances on there. My third and final album
with Paten Locke has been done for years now I’m just waiting for the
right time to release it, but it’s in the chamber.
As for FULL PLATE, be on the lookout for The Smile Rays (Paten
Locke x Batsauce x Lady Daisey), an album called Party…Place
dropping later this year. Originally released in 2007 in Japan only, this’ll
be the first ever U.S. release. One of the first “Dillon” verses is on that
album! Plus we have a Paten Locke x Edan 45 dropping later this year
as well.

Diamond D; You’re at a stage where you can pick and choose who you work
with or not, with no pressure. What’s the process you go through
when collaborating, and what makes Dillon someone you feel
comfortable working with?

Dillon and I have have been friends for over a decade. I like his
approach to music and the fact that he loved Dilla and boom bap style
hip-hop as a whole. We started off with him working as an engineer for
me and that led to me working and producing music for him.

DJ Premier works with younger artists from the latest
generation of rappers; your D.I.T.C. brother Buckwild has recently
released music with current independent emcees; and DJ Muggs
has created a whole cottage industry working with underground
rappers in the last few years. Producing for an artist like Dillon
feels similar. Do you see this as a way to stay relevant, bridge the
gap between generations, or both?

I recently dropped my producer compilation, The Rear View, 2021’s
Gotham LP — which I produced for Kweli — and 2019’s The Diam
Piece 2, which features a “who’s who” of A list artists so my relevancy
is already in place. Me working with Dillon was more so bridging the gap between generations.

You have also been steadily dropping videos from The Rear View, which I really enjoyed. What’s the reception
to your newer music been like?

Appreciate that you enjoyed The Rear View. The reception for that
record has been phenomenal and the fact that i can still work with A-list
artists after 30 years in the game speaks for itself. I’m blessed so no
complaints.

Lastly, Stunts, Blunts, & Hip Hop is now over 30 years old. In
the year we celebrate 50 years of hip-hop, how do you feel about
the legacy of the album, and your place in our culture’s history?

Stunts, Blunts, & Hip Hop made the list of top 100 hip-hop LPs of all
time, and I’ve seen other lists where it’s been ranked in the top 10. It’s
all subjective, but I’m honored by the mentions.

As for my place in the culture’s history…here’s a quick run down:
• A classic album
• Co-founder of D.I.T.C.
• Grammy Award Winner
• Featured producer of over 30 million albums sold
• First East Coast producer to work with various West Coast producers

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Uncut Gems is out now via Full Plate. Get it on vinyl and tape, plus merch, here. Follow Dillon on X and Instagram. Follow Diamond D on X and Instagram

Exclusive Premiere: Sonnyjim & Buckwild – ‘Double Green’ feat. Crimeapple

Sonnyjim is having a productive 2021. He dropped A Joint Venture with Kev Brown back in March, but there’s plenty more new music on the way. This Friday sees the release of Coke La Roc, a collaboration with legendary D.I.T.C. producer, Buckwild. Ahead of the release, today we bring you the premiere of the latest single from the project. “Double Green” features Crimeapple, with him and Sonnyjim spitting bars over a timeless beat from Buckwild. Listen below, click here to stream on your platform of choice, and lookout for our interview with Sonnyjim coming soon.

Exclusive Premiere: K-Beta & DJ J Scrilla – ‘DTLR 3’ (video) feat. Sketch McGuiney & Conway the Machine

Today we bring you the premiere of the animated video for the latest heavyweight head-nodder from K-Beta & DJ J Scrilla and their new album, Bad Rap (which you can also hear further below). With back up from Sketch McGuiney and none other than Conway The Machine, it’s one of the highlights of the new project, and you can watch it exclusively right now below.

Exclusive First-Listen: Visionaries – ‘V’

Indy rap icons The Visionaries have regrouped for an excellent new album named V, and you can listen to the whole thing a day early, exclusively via Grown Up Rap. The Los Angeles based crew, which consists of DJ Rhettmatic, 2Mex, KeyKool, James LMNO, Dannu and Lord Zen, dropped a run of seminal albums between 1998-2007, including Pangaea and the classic We Are The Ones (We’ve Been Waiting For), while also contributing to each other’s solo projects. After a long hiatus the group is finally ready to release their new album, and you can hear it below right now. Then go to the Visionaries Bandcamp to purchase an exclusive digital version of the album including liner notes breaking down the extensive history of the group and how the new album came about.

Exclusive Premiere: Justo The MC & maticulous – ‘County of Kings’ + Interview

Today we’re excited to bring you the premiere of the new album from Justo the MC and producer maticulous, County of Kings. A follow-up to last year’s Mind Of A Man, the new project is more of what you’d expect from the true-school duo. Hit play below to listen now, and keep scrolling for our interview with maticulous.

Tell us what people can expect from the new album with Justo The MC, County of Kings?

First off, thank you for reaching out, it’s good to talk with you! I think what people can expect is the evolution in chemistry we’ve had making records over the past two years. I’m very proud of Mind Of A Man, the first record we did in January  2019. It was organic and we’ve really just relied on our ear and creativity to guide us through each project and County Of Kings builds upon that. You never want to make the same album over and over…

Its about only been about 18 months since Mind of A Man, and a year since the Bonus Room EP. Do you guys tend to record new shit pretty much non-stop, or do you just have plenty of music in the vaults ready to go when you feel the time is right?

When we first started working on songs it was just to see if it’d progress into a full project. Since finishing Mind Of A Man, we’ve been consistently working and building projects. Bonus Room came to be because we were in a really chill/vibe-out type zone for a few months while working on Mind Of A Man. The Bonus Room tracks did not fit the energy of the album, but it turned into a Summer EP.

Has the way you guys work together changed or evolved much since you first started collaborating?

For sure, working on this much music you develop a brotherhood. More ideas spark and get bounced back and forth and I think it makes the music better overall. All organic, nothing is forced or trying to fit in a certain lane, just trying to create high quality hip-hop from our perspective.

The first time you really caught our ear as a producer was with The maticulous LP in 2015, which we posted about a lot at the time. It had a great mix of emcees on there (Masta Ace, Your Old Droog, Guilty Simpson, Blu and more), and I’m curious as to how you chose who you wanted to feature, and do you craft beats with specific artists in mind?

Thank you. When I do producer projects I map out instrumentals and sequence it to have an album-feel as opposed to just a compilation of tracks. Once I have them all sorted, I’ll reach out to the emcees that I feel would best represent each sound. I also enjoy featuring artists that have never worked on tracks together before — for example RA The Rugged Man with Duck Down artists on “Body The Beat”, Blu and Masta Ace on “Bet Your Life”, Fame and Rah Digga on “Black Hoodie Rap”, etc. It’s fun approaching it from a fan point-of-view!

This leads nicely to the inevitable question about which rappers are on your list of who you’d love to have over your production. 

Black Thought, Anderson .Paak, Phonte, Freddie Gibbs, Nas… I could go on, haha!

How has lockdown been for you creatively? I think it was El-P who tweeted a few weeks back how a lot of artists probably thought they’d be mad productive during this time, but how art doesn’t always come out that way, when you have free time. How are you finding it?

El-P is 100% correct! It takes a while to figure out your own process as an artist and finding what process brings you the most fulfilment. My productivity comes in waves, and when I’m inspired I want to work all the time, and if I’m not I don’t. However, telling an artist they have unlimited free time can be crippling because too many times I’ve tried to force things and I end up regretting the time I spent.

Do you tend to work with rappers in person? I ask, because that cohesive sound you only get when a producer and emcee actually make music together in the studio is definitely something that Covid 19 is effecting. 

Working in person on any level is my favorite, whether it’s just playing beats, recording, or mixing. It’s more productive than sending e-files back and forth. You miss the energy and the collaboration of doing everything over the internet. This is not to say you can’t make dope music strictly that way… in my experience I’d say it’s been a 50/50 mix.

Lastly, what can we expect from you next now that County of Kings is out?

Justo and I are in the midst of our third album. All the beats have been crafted and lyrics written… recording and post production next. Our workflow is enjoyable because he doesn’t subscribe to a certain sound or whatever the flavor of the moment is. I’m always creating, stacking beats, sometimes you’ll hear where my vibe is when I post some snippets on my IG. I appreciate the questions, thank you to all your readers and supporters of the music!

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Purchase County of Kings here. Follow Justo the MC on Twitter and Instagram here and here, and maticulous here and here. Interview by Grown Up Rap Editor Ben Pedroche.

Premiere: Rhys Langston – ‘Language Arts Unit’ + Interview

Our latest premiere is of the new album by multi-talented L.A. artist, Rhys Langston. The mostly self-produced Language Arts Unit comes out tomorrow on POW Recordings, but you can check it below right now. And keep scrolling to read our interview with the man himself.

You describe yourself as a “multi disciplinary artist and performer”. Unpack that for me. 

I am given pause every time I want to explain to someone that I create in more ways than one, because I know folks can front like they do more things than they do, or they do everything but badly or in mediocrity. I’ve been creating in the fine arts (painting, drawing, other media) since before I can remember, and am the most trained in that discipline. The cover art for this album and its “Eyes Dyed in Saturated Retinas” single are original works I created in and of themselves, only later realizing I wanted them to be involved with the album. Writing has always been a natural process, and my gift for language was always present (or so I was told). It is a deeply intimate process that I practice to understand myself, but it actually took me to the most public art of mine form: the music. The potential for sending a message sent me to sounds, and now I find myself actually a capable instrumentalist as well as vocalist. I am also the descendant of a lineage of performers, a natural, so when writing and music first took me to a public space people often thought I had been doing it for years prior. That is the pack unpacked.

There’s something a bit milo, Open Mike Eagle, Busdriver and Serengeti about your music. How has the whole Project Blowed/Low End Theory scene inspired you?

It’s funny, because I wanted for so long (in college at least) to be in league with those first three guys, and met all of them in my hometown of LA. However, I discovered them after I had already started writing and rhyming in my own way (as much as that may sound like a fiction). I released a really abstract project in February of 2014 (my sophomore year), and an acquaintance compared it to milo’s work. Not being familiar with his music I scoffed (as we all do when we think we are very original), but upon listening I saw how one might have construed him influencing me. I see the similarity, but we interact with language differently and have quite contrasting ideologies.

He did eventually influence me, however, along with OME and Busdriver when I started to see their names more, and get into music as a fan. I made music for long time with my head in the sand (not really listening to or discovering much music), and early on was more influenced by artists like Talib Kweli, Saul Williams, and the Pharcyde, riffing off their styles, not quite realizing what was in my backyard. I performed at KAOS Network (the home of Blowed) years after hanging out there at community initiative events as a 15 year old who didn’t even compose music. I performed at Low End Theory in 2016 before it closed up, but I honestly feel fortunate to only have gone there after I was already doing my own style, starting in like 2014, as well. It allowed my sound to not be bogged down in being over-influenced (especially in my instrumental production).

You come from a family of creatives (actors, directors, composers, etc.). I guess it was pretty inevitable you’d be an artist yourself having grown up in that environment?

I had/have the privilege of being reared by people not only sympathetic to an artist lifestyle, but a mindset. My mother and father, and my ensuing step parents all had a path and career in the arts, but it was of a more working class reality and ethic. I am fortunate to have seen that day-to-day humility while working in the realm of more lofty ideals, you know, the balancing act that many parents aren’t aware of and therefore cannot support. I think what separates a lot of parent support of their children in the arts is the ability to be comfortable with indeterminacy, an often meandering journey, and the reality of no easy answers. Even so, my dad who is a multi-talented artist, definitely wanted me to be a basketball player more than anything, haha.

When you create across a lot of different mediums, whether it be writing prose, rapping, production, spoken word or paining, how do you decide which discipline to express an idea in?

To be honest, I don’t decide. I’ve had a multimedia ecosystem of creation for years now, and each thing informs another. The goal of my creation as a careerist is to get to a point where people won’t lose interest if I decide to focus on one medium for a while or release something completely novel. The medium is not the message; it is a translation and I take all of those translations to heart distinctly.

Your music can be quite polarizing. Listening to Language Arts Unit, I can’t help feel that people will either really love it, or not like it at all. No middle ground or casual fans. Are you conscious of how people take your music and whether or not they get it, and do you even care?

No offense, but I would reject that notion or even entertain that thought into existence. I feel more than anything, folks are apathetic to, or confused by my work, because they don’t understand it, don’t feel they can easily reduce it to association, or are too distracted in their newsfeed to sit down with it earnestly. This project, as much as the title suggests something abstract or even dry, is one where I tried to reach out with a stylistic and musical olive branch more than any preceding project. If I wanted to be polarizing I would have produced more experimental beats, leaned into unintelligibility with the wordage, and totally eschewed the pop structure I’m playing with. I think if one listens to this project without thinking in a taxonomizing, association-centric fashion they will see that there is something for a lot of different types of listeners. For example, listen to just the first track and then the last track on the album. Someone cynical might say that I am “doing too much” or “can’t focus,” but I would contend the range and the ability to channel abstraction in many styles speaks to a type of reconciliation of sound and meaning. In another universe Da Baby would be rapping on the first track and young Björk would be singing on the last (and a host of other artists in the between tracks). However, I’ve decided to insert myself inside those sonic environs, to show instead what could be done with the range.

But yes I am of a sub-genre of cats who really get abstract and weird, which can be polarising— but I am not afraid to declare that my musical versatility and innate understanding of tone and structure makes me unique in that succession. I think abstraction can work in tandem with an immediate, undeniable musicality, and I tried to make the literal music be a vehicle for that. I am actively trying to re-define what we think accessibility can be, and I don’t care how romantic that sounds. This is pop poetry.

I’m excited to see that Language Arts Unit is mastered by Dave Cooley, known for working on a lot of classic hip-hop from Stones Throw, including Madvillain and Donuts. What was it like working with him?

Yes, it is exciting and an honor!  I believe he’s very selective, so thinking back on how I started to work with him is actually pretty wild. In 2013 I hit him up with maybe the second single I ever thought about releasing (it passed the test of time and is still up everywhere), and he really took to it and was down to master the song. He’s mastered four projects to date actually, though this is the first project in years where I’ve been able to afford his prowess. Since I mixed it myself, I knew I had to have the best on board so I wouldn’t be thinking about how it sounded it in 5 years. Obviously the classic hip-hop is important to my sound and the legacy I’m creating, but the fact that he mastered albums by Yves Tumor, Ariel Pink, and Bob Marley was important for me, with the varying sounds/genres on this record. He turned the album around in a day and even did the full instrumentals, without a single revision needed. It really took the worry off of finalizing of, you know, 3-4 years of creating the record.

Language Arts Unit comes with a book of essays. Tell me about why you chose to include that, and how it accompanies the music?

This project is a full exposition of my skills from rapping, producing, mixing, prose writing/editing, painting, to performing. In this way the title, reminiscent of school instruction, is a play on words and the concept of the record: to take y’all to school with a text and book of textbook raps (and literally in every art form I could muster). I know cynicism is easy, and people don’t believe the non-famous can do many things well, but this book was something I wanted to write for a long time, a series of ideas that finally found their way into a project without forcing it. Especially in an age where musicians are lauded for everything they DON’T DO (the production, the cover art, even the writing), I wanted to kill everything. The book is the album and the album is the book. Yet they are made in such a way that you can interact with the two halves of project as superficially as you want (just hearing the sub-bass on the records and bouncing around) or as deeply as you can (digging into the footnotes in the book and copping a Fred Moten or Saidiya Hartman quote).

Any closing thoughts about the album?

This album is for those who don’t wait for permission to proceed as they innovate, for those who are the early adopters of new ideas, for those who wanna shake their ass to the beat and be flummoxed over the lyrics at the same time.

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Language Arts Unit is out tomorrow on POW Recordings. Get it here, including the books of essays. Follow Rhys Langston on Twitter and Instagram. Interview by Grown Up Rap Editor Ben Pedroche.

Exclusive Premiere: Vic Spencer – ‘Rehab Resort’ (video) + Interview

Today we bring you the premiere of the new video by Chicago’s finest, Vic Spencer. “Rehab Resort” is from the upcoming album, Psychological Cheat Sheet, out next week. Check the video above, and then peep the interview below. 

“Rehab Resort” is from the new album, Psychological Cheat Sheet. Tell us what we can expect from the new project?

Psychological Cheat Sheet is a pot of frustrations, gumbo style. Somethings that I probably would post on social media, I put in my rhymes instead. Expect broken hearts, hurt feelings, expect envy from various rappers. Everybody is not going to give themselves or be vulnerable for listeners. I will, though.

You are very prolific and always in the studio, which I’ve heard you describe as an addiction. Is this because of a constant itch to want to create, a way to keep your name out there at all times and monetise your as much work as possible, or a bit of both?

Before I had a opportunity to be in the studio weekly, I used to record on a boombox and cassette tape. I used a karaoke machine to record my voice. I did that daily. I was doing this in 2008, still. I always told myself that if I had an opportunity to record as much as possible, no matter how old I get, I’m gonna record as much as possible.

Let’s talk about Chicago hip-hop. It feels like there’s a lot of space between the big stars like Ye, Common and Chance The Rapper, and indy/underground artists like Tree, Chris Crack and yourself. But you’ve also worked with artists like Chance. Do you feel like you can be a bridge between the two lanes, and how do you feel about the local scene in general?

I feel the local scene in Chicago is segregated. I feel like a lot of artists that are successful, they hang with the more successful people: the people that got record deals, THEY ALL HANG TOGETHER. Look out for one another. Be at each other shows. While the rest of Chicago competes with one another. I can never be a bridge because I’ve been blackballed in Chicago so much by so many Chicago artists. Sure, I worked with Chance the Rapper but what happened after that?? Nothing at all. Nothing reciprocated. So that’s what I mean when artists are on a higher platform they stay there, they literally just grab a chair, lemonade and stay there and whoever is there that’s who they are give their attention to, nothing else. I’m an on the ground MC. Chance the Rapper has no time for me.

Speaking of Chance, I went back and watched the “National Geographical” video from 2014. You both look young as fuck lol! It must feel good to see his career having taken off so much since then. Are you guys still tight?

I loved “National Geographical”. Actually that song was done before he got on that song. That’s when Chance was broke. He called my phone daily, come to my house smoke my cigarettes, everything. Recently spoke to Chance about a situation where he was under-paying artists that was on his first album and I kind of made a joke about it. It took for me to do that to get Chance the Rapper’s attention. I wasn’t even trying to get his attention. I think we just as tight as just speaking to one another, being cordial. I recently asked Chance “do you want to hang out and take our daughters to some type of fun place.” He ignored me so I don’t know. I’m just being 100 with you. I don’t be on no music shit with celebs.

Something else I noticed looking back on your older music is how different your voice was compared to today – it’s a lot deeper and grimier now. Is this a natural change, maybe due to getting old or too much weed (!), or is it a stylistic choice? I know Evidence has talked about how he sounds different now because he used to put on a different voice, but now embraces what he really sounds like.

I think my voice is changing with age. I smoke weed but I don’t think it has done anything to mess up my voice. I think that I always had this baritone sound and I think that it’s important that my pockets don’t change but the voice does, you see growth in the voice but the pockets remain the same. It’s personal to me. My heart is being put back together as we speak. So it’s gonna be a lot of grimey, it’s gonna be a lot of heartfelt.

One of the things I respect about you is the humbleness. You tweet about how good it is to see your own music on vinyl, how happy it makes you to see people in your circle do good, trips to juvenile court and other real-life shit. It’s a refreshing lack of ego you don’t see a lot in hip-hop. It is important to you for people to see you like that?

I think it’s very important for people to see me in that vein. Because all rappers do is talk about themselves. They never talk about what they can completed or what they did for the community. I seen rappers say “if you got a record a good deed and it wasn’t a good deed”.  I think that’s the wackest excuse to why you don’t do what you need to do to assist another person. All my goals that I wanted to complete in life musically are simple, never outlandish. I remember saying “I want to hear myself on vinyl” and now I got a whole bunch of vinyl that you could actually collect. I think that that’s important to speak out about that. All my homies dropped albums last year. I love to see people around me working. I love positive things, I love to talk about positive things, I love to tweet about positive things. Now if I tweet about something negative, that means something has occurred.

From your social media posts, it sounds like you have a lot of other projects cooking for this year. What’s next up after Psychological Cheat Sheet?

I have an album with Stu Bangas that could drop next. I have a weed album called No Shawn Skemps that’s dropping on 4/20 this year regardless. Spencer for Higher 3 with Sonnyjim is dropping this year. IM NOT PLAYING! I have a album with my in house producer/engineer Doc da Mindbenda. I’m working on music that’s gonna drop in 2021 and 2022 right now.

Any final thoughts or shout outs?

Shouts to everyone except those that I don’t fuck with.

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Psychological Cheat Sheet is out next week. Follow Vic Spencer on Twitter and Instagram. Interview by Grown Up Rap Editor Ben Pedroche